{"id":17376,"date":"2023-06-29T16:26:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-29T19:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundacaofhc.org.br\/?post_type=debate&#038;p=17376"},"modified":"2024-07-18T09:17:43","modified_gmt":"2024-07-18T12:17:43","slug":"initiatives-for-a-sustainable-amazon-a-dialogue-between-marina-silva-and-ilan-goldfajn","status":"publish","type":"debate","link":"https:\/\/fundacaofhc.org.br\/en\/debate\/initiatives-for-a-sustainable-amazon-a-dialogue-between-marina-silva-and-ilan-goldfajn\/","title":{"rendered":"Initiatives for a Sustainable Amazon: A dialogue between Marina Silva and Ilan Goldfajn"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Global warming and the climate crisis are a reality, and the time to act at national, regional, and international levels to protect the Amazon \u2014 the largest equatorial forest on the planet, fundamental for climate regulation \u2014 is now. \u201cWe are living in a crucial moment, and we need to take advantage of it, because we may not have another moment as propitious as this one to achieve substantive results in the preservation and sustainable development of the Amazon,\u201d said the&nbsp;<strong>Minister of the Environment and Climate Change, Marina Silva<\/strong>, on a visit to the Funda\u00e7\u00e3o Fernando Henrique Cardoso.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere is a clear new moment for progress in preserving the Amazon. I\u2019m talking about the eight Amazon countries and the territory of French Guiana, but above all, Brazil and Colombia, where the current governments have made a firm commitment to this goal. Outside the Amazon region, there is also this view that the time to turn the key and protect the forest is now,\u201d said\u00a0<strong>Ilan Goldfajn, president of the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)<\/strong>, with 48 member countries and more than US$ 23 billion in investments and mobilizations (consolidated data from 2021).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"embed-responsive-item\"  title=\"Resumo do webinar - Iniciativas para uma Amaz\u00f4nia Sustent\u00e1vel - com Marina Silva e Ilan Goldfajn\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9OOUMYo22EU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Marina Silva and Ilan Goldfajn\u2014who, at the invitation of the Funda\u00e7\u00e3o FHC and the IDB, met on July 29 at our headquarters in S\u00e3o Paulo to discuss initiatives for the sustainable development of the Amazon\u2014there is a heightened awareness in Brazil, other Amazonian countries, and in much of the developed and developing world. They are all aware of the necessity of maintaining the Amazon rainforest, protecting its rivers and biodiversity while concurrently making investments and enabling sustainable economic alternatives. These efforts aim to improve the quality of life and to ensure employment and income for the Amazon\u2019s 60 million inhabitants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition to the two speakers, whose backgrounds and areas of activity are highly diverse but could significantly complement each other, the event was attended by around a hundred people. The two institutions extended invitations to environmentalists, economists, business people, representatives of the third sector, academics, and journalists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The IDB wants to be an umbrella for sustainable projects across the eight Amazon countries<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe regional and global political moment to act is now. The IDB has 26 members from Latin America and the Caribbean and another 22 from outside the region. The new administration that I represent has defined the Amazon as a priority, and we want to play the role of uniting the needs of the eight Amazonian countries with other countries\u2019 interests in contributing to its preservation,\u201d said Mr. Goldfajn, the inaugural speaker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The former president of Banco Central do Brasil highlighted that, in the Amazon-sharing nations, the increasing awareness of the critical need to preserve the world\u2019s largest equatorial forest coincides with the understanding that it is also essential to look at the social and economic conditions of the region\u2019s inhabitants.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe already have a diagnosis of the situation: the Amazon occupies 40% of South America, more than 60% of which is in Brazil; around 40% of the region\u2019s 60 million inhabitants live below the poverty line. In the social sphere, most communities in the forest, rural areas, cities, and by the rivers lack basic services. In economic terms, the region has a low productivity level and extensive informal labor and illegal activities. That has to change,\u201d said the speaker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAt the IDB, we\u2019ve already had the Amazon Initiative for some time, but we want to evolve it into an umbrella for regional projects aimed at monitoring the forest, rivers, biodiversity, and climate, as well as improving social conditions, developing alternative activities and the physical and digital infrastructure. The aim is to pool resources and coordinate efforts to take care of the environment and people in a holistic manner with true impact,\u201d he continued.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Goldfajn, this umbrella that the IDB intends to create will have a financing side, through grants and loans, and a technical training side to format the projects, monitor them, and analyze the results. The development bank already has US$430 million available for grants (non-repayable funds), but it wants to pool billions of public and private dollars. \u201cThe available grants are in the millions. The loans we intend to obtain are in the billions, but for the Amazon to last forever, as Minister Marina Silva proposes, we will need trillions of dollars over the coming years and decades,\u201d said Mr. Goldfajn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cPublic funds are essential, but they are not unlimited, just like those of the IDB and other international organizations. So we\u2019ll need funds from the private sector to supplement this. We can design the financial instruments to ensure that this happens,\u201d he said. During the event, the president of the IDB announced the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.iadb.org\/pt\/noticias\/bid-lanca-amazonia-sempre-um-programa-guarda-chuva-para-ampliar-coordenacao-na-regiao\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>launch of the Amaz\u00f4nia Sempre Program<\/strong><\/a>, which he said was inspired by the Brazilian minister and environmentalist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Goldfajn reported that the IDB recently helped exchange part of Ecuador\u2019s public debt for government investments in the preservation of the Galapagos Archipelago in exchange for predefined targets. \u201cIt works like a prize: when certain climate defense and nature preservation objectives are achieved, the country\u2019s debt is lowered,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re contemplating the launch of an Amazon bond backed by the bank\u2019s guarantee. What the IDB wants and can contribute to is prioritization and organization with a structural, financial, and economic perspective. Our aim is to unite the efforts of the various existing initiatives and those of the future in the same direction. The name of the game from now on is focus, scale, and speed,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the IDB president, the Amazon Summit\u2014President Lula\u2019s initiative to foster cooperation between the Amazon countries and other partners for the sustainable development of the region\u2014will take place in Bel\u00e9m, the capital of the Brazilian state of Par\u00e1, in August 2024, which will serve as a platform to engage public and private donors worldwide and provide them with an up-close understanding of the Amazon\u2019s reality and to gather additional donations and resources. \u201cWe are planning to organize a concurrent event for potential donors from outside the Amazon region,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another priority for the Inter-American Development Bank is leveraging its influence to support the establishment of an international carbon credit market.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fundacaofhc.org.br\/imagens\/20\/96\/arq_22096.JPG?1708521277=1708521277?1708521152\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The Lula administration\u2019s three pillars: fighting inequality, bolstering democracy, and sustainability<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>During her presentation, the Minister of the Environment and Climate Change, Marina Silva, stressed that Brazil must employ an overarching environmental policy involving not only most of the federal government\u2019s ministries, bodies, and agencies but also the states and municipalities, the private sector, the third sector, and society at large.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhen I started defending this idea 20 years ago, during my first term in charge of the Environment (2003-2008), few people understood. Today, 28 of the Lula administration\u2019s 37 ministries and various federal agencies have actions focused on climate and sustainability, 19 of them with well-organized structures. There is, in fact, a commitment on the part of the federal government to tackle climate change,\u201d said Marina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The minister highlighted the Plan for Ecological Transformation \u2014 which was announced in April 2023 by Finance Minister\u2014 as an example of the Lula administration\u2019s commitment to tackling environmental and climate issues.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAnother crucial advancement was the recent unveiling of the Sustainable Harvest Plan 1.0 (Plano Safra Sustent\u00e1vel 1.0), poised to underpin the financing of sustainable, low-carbon agriculture. Achieving sustainability across an entire country or region cannot happen overnight or within a single year; however, moving forward, our approach will be forward-looking. Federal funding will hinge on the sustainability of our agriculture and livestock sectors, along with a portfolio of low-carbon projects,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the minister, the efforts of IBAMA, the Federal Police, and other bodies involved in the fight against illegal deforestation in the Amazon are already showing signs of progress: \u201cStill preliminary data indicates a 30% drop in deforestation, with more accurate figures expected soon from the Satellite Deforestation Monitoring Project of the Legal Amazon\/Brazilian Institute for Space Research (PRODES\/INPE) system that should confirm this. Our goal is to achieve zero deforestation.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marina expressed regret over the nation\u2019s recent environmental setbacks in the previous years. \u201cWe should have been leading by example. Brazil had curtailed illegal deforestation by more than 80% for almost a decade in the early 2000s. However, the previous administration\u2019s policies led to Brazil being labeled an environmental outcast. Between 2003 and 2008, Brazil was home to 80% of the world\u2019s protected areas, including 25 million hectares of conservation units, underscoring our significant contribution to biodiversity preservation. We are resuming our role of guaranteeing the preservation of the Amazon and all our biomes. Political resolve and ethical dedication are pivotal,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe Lula administration\u2019s policy is based on three pillars: fighting inequality, bolstering democracy, and fostering sustainability. In a true democracy, policies should be crafted \u2018with the people\u2019 rather than \u2018for the people.\u2019 Engaging the scientific and traditional communities, various government levels, the private sector, the third sector, and all political forces is crucial. It takes work, but this inclusive approach is essential for achieving enduring outcomes,\u201d she stated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The minister emphasized that cracking down on illegal activities, however challenging and insufficient, is an obligation of the federal government. \u201cBelieving that increased oversight and stricter enforcement alone will resolve the issue is illusory. However, without a determined and ongoing effort to combat illegality, which seeks to undermine legitimate, ethical, and equitable endeavors, neither public policy nor private or public investment can thrive,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ms. Silva also highlighted the significant potential Brazil holds in the renewable energy and food production sectors. \u201cWe stand poised to attract substantial investments in third-generation renewable energies, like green hydrogen. Is there a global demand for grains and protein? Brazil boasts a modern, technologically advanced, competitive, and profitable agribusiness sector. Yet, there remain areas within this sector operating with low productivity and environmental degradation. We possess all the necessary conditions to transform this scenario, ensuring that our agribusiness gains international respect,\u201d she stated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>A robust framework to ensure that the Amazon remains standing forever<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>For the environmentalist, the challenge for Brazil and other countries in the Amazon region and around the globe is to \u201cestablish a robust framework to mitigate global warming. This involves collaborative efforts from governments, international entities, the private and financial sectors, the scientific community, and civil society to achieve significant outcomes as swiftly as possible, together. After all, the dire consequences of climate change are already upon us.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Minister underscored the significance of the Amazon Fund, initiated in 2008, as a uniquely inventive mechanism for garnering international support for forest conservation and sustainability projects. \u201cI see Joaquim Levy here, whose profound financial expertise significantly contributed to the structuring of the Amazon Fund over fifteen years ago. This innovative fund, abandoned by the previous administration, is undergoing revitalization to attract contributions from global partners,\u201d she said. An engineer and economist, Mr. Levy was Brazilian Secretary of the National Treasury (2003-2006), vice-president of the IDB (2006), and Minister of Finance (2015), among other substantial posts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOur goal is to prioritize projects and activities that ensure the continued existence of the forest, its rivers, and its rich biodiversity while simultaneously providing the people of the Amazon with a sustainable way of life. Which agricultural practices, livestock farming methods, fishing techniques, extractive processes, industrial activities, tourism models, and infrastructure projects can sustainably keep the Amazon standing forever?\u201d she inquired.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe principle of sustainable development has emerged as an indispensable economic, political, and social requirement for our region, as well as an ethical imperative for the whole world. We all share the same planet; what I do here affects the other side of the world and vice-versa. It is through the collective effort of everyone that we can alter the trajectory of our planet, humanity, and every living creature,\u201d the environmentalist concluded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Watch the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sOe-ILfd0ag\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>lecture in full<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0(In Portuguese).\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><br>Ot\u00e1vio Dias is the content editor at the Funda\u00e7\u00e3o FHC. 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